|
Lisa Wood Shapiro, a writer
and an Emmy-winning filmmaker whose work has appeared on PBS,
A&E, Nickelodeon,
Noggin and elsewhere, studied
nonfiction writing with the late Lucy Grealy and the poet
Thomas Lux. She lives in New York City with her husband
and three children.
—————————— 
Q: Okay, how did your
breasts save the world?
A: Technically speaking my breasts didn't really save
the world, but they saved my world--my world of new motherhood. I
was so determined about succeeding as a breast-feeding mother
that at one point I lost perspective about their importance
in the universe. I felt I was nursing for all of humankind.
Q: People are buzzing about
recent books on motherhood and its place in our culture--where
do you see your book in the discussion?
A: First and foremost I see
my book as good old entertainment. I want people
to be able to laugh at themselves and me and the whole situation
of new motherhood and breastfeeding--something that often doesn't
come as "naturally" as most women expect. I focus on
my personal choices such as staying home versus working and I
offer advice on nursing and I try to stay funny. The first year
of motherhood is so tough and often lonely that you need an arsenal
of humor..
Q: Is that what compelled
you to write a breastfeeding tell-all?
A: I thought I was so prepared. I bought the
right crib, the cute bumper, I knew where to get the stylish
maternity clothes, I took the hip labor classes, and then I
had the baby. I was fairly lucky with my labor, and I thought, "Now
the hard part is over." What I didn't realize was that
the hard part hadn't even begun.
Q: By the "hard part" do
you mean nursing?
A: Yes,
I based much of my knowledge of breastfeeding on this scene
I saw in The Blue Lagoon : Brooke Shields
holds her newborn son and the baby just pops right on. I
should have known better. The Blue Lagoon isn't
too realistic to begin with, and I was in my teens myself the
last time I saw the movie. But I stashed that scene
in the back of my brain in some file labeled "nursing is easy."
Q: It's the information
age, yet nursing seems to be mystery to many women. Why?
A: Though I now know several women who read books about
nursing and knew where to go for support and guidance, I also
know many women, like myself, who prepared only for labor.
When the baby came, we assumed he or she would latch right
on and eat. I had never seen a woman latch a baby onto
her breast in person. If I did catch a glimpse of a woman nursing
in public I politely looked away. Here's the thing: anthropologically
speaking we were supposed to have witnessed a thousand latches
by the time we had our own offspring. There was a time
in the not too distant past--even a hundred or so years ago--when
nursing was very much part of a woman's daily life. Your mother,
your sister, your neighbor, the women in your sewing circle,
all these women would nurse without embarrassment.
Q: What place do you think
nursing has today in our culture?
A: Nursing makes people uncomfortable, so it's been
pushed to the back room, the bathroom stall, or the car in
the parking lot. We've all heard about women "caught" nursing
in restaurants or stores, horrifying the other patrons. It
makes me so sad--recently I had the opportunity to go to a museum
where I saw two 18 th century paintings, beautiful works showing
mothers nursing, and a sculpture of a mother nursing her infant.
They were gorgeous images--scenes from our lives--who we are
as humans. Yet, the nursing mom in the media is often
the butt of jokes, as a 1960's throwback or an over-sexualized
woman. In the film Me, Myself, and Irene ,
Jim Carrey's character latches on to a buxom blond mother's
breast and nurses. In the next shot, he has milk moustache.
Q: How do you think people
react to images of a nursing mother today?
A: It often depends on the community you are in. In
America some people are fine with it and some people see it
as something to be gawked at. There was an incident in
upstate New York several years ago at the Stewart International
Airport during an art exhibit. A local artist painted a baby
nursing--a natural and lovely depiction. The picture
hung in the concourse for two days. They removed
it after receiving 15 complaints from passengers.
Q: What do you think the future
holds for the nursing mother? Do
you see any hope for a change?
A: I think the nursing mom's
image is getting a much-needed makeover—several years ago it
was great to see Cynthia Nixon's character Miranda latch her
baby onto her breast on Sex and the City. Jennifer
Aniston's character Rachel on Friends breast-fed on-air
as well. Those scenes were both historic
and chic. But recently I was watching the American
version of the sitcom The Office and they had a shot
of a woman pumping. She was at her desk out in the open
in front of all of her co-workers, including one male worker
who was just staring at her. She said something snide
to him. I am a fan of the show but it was a cheap shot
at nursing moms. She is such an easy target. I
really couldn’t believe the scene and I couldn’t relate to
the woman. I pumped at work, but only in private quarters.
My primary concern in 2007 is the fact that breastfeeding is
not a protected federal civil right and insurance companies
are not obligated to cover the cost of lactation consultants.
Q: What about women who choose
not to breastfeed? Are
you horrified when you see a woman bottle-feeding?
A: Every mother makes her own personal decision about
how to feed her infant. I have never been
interested in being part of the polemic of breastfeeding versus
bottle-feeding. I am more concerned with the public
policies and how they affect families, such as day care and
tax deductions when it comes to baby sitters.
Q: What do you most want
the reader to take away from your book?
A: This is the book I wish I read those first few lonely
weeks. I needed both a good laugh and camaraderie. I
was a professional woman with my own company – I managed employees,
budgets, and deadlines. And then I had this tiny newborn
and I couldn't manage any of it. I couldn't even breastfeed
at first but I was able to get help. Women who've read the
book tell me that it made them laugh and cry and I hope it
also lets them know they're not alone. I want them to
be aware that there are people out there who can help them
to get the nursing thing down. There's a scene in the
book where my lactation consultant compliments me on my efforts
to nurse my daughter. I remember how much that compliment
meant to me, how good it made me feel. She saw me as
successful for sticking it out rather than a failure for having
difficulty. I hope every woman who reads my book gets
that same feeling. |